zarag said:
Gee, Gremio, I thought this horse was kicked enough, but you keep coming back with bullshit. Nothing you have said is based on anything more than opinion, any more than anything I have said. Your "facts" and "reasoning" are your subjective "experiences" and probably plenty of your own conjecture as well. You are not any different than anyone else in that regard. Please STFU already trying to sound like you are a physics professor proving a theorem with molecular proof, in a paper, for everyone to see. Your opinion, my opinion... THAT'S WHAT A FORUM IS DESIGNED FOR. If you want to argue your facts about something, get off an online gaming board and go to a school... preferably for a science-related degree, and you can write papers all day on all the data you can find. For now, it's just opinion, and my saying that doesn't lessen your arguments any more than it strengthens my own. Good gawd.
Yeah, I thought so too.
"Nothing you have said is based on anything more than opinion"
Right...People can go back and read for themselves, I'm not going to quote all of them.
Subjective experiences huh? So the fact that people learn and (hopefully) become better and more knowledgable about the game by playing it and experiencing the things you call "griefing" is a subjective experience based on opinion? I could have sworn we all had this learning thing called a brain. That must have just been my opinion. Sweet.
Bahahahha. So you'd rather just say you like things all day and not why, because that's your opinion and that's good enough? The fact that it's an online forum means nothing. Wait, we can't eat cereal in the kitchen, it won't taste the same, let's go to the dining room. Good grief.
edit: Btw, I'll go ahead and shoot ya a good example of what I'm talking about. Someone I know recently started up a UO shard with Sphere and I went there to test bugs for him. Read through his forums and they hadn't decided if they wanted to keep horse bombing in or not. So I started a POL to vote on it and I stated that it was a bug, talked about how it allowed people who spent absolutely 0 time in game to kill any one and any mob, ruining economy and PvP (to a degree) etc. etc. Went on. Then I had at least 2 people respond that they wanted it, w00t w00t haha, it is great, old school, go horse bombing. The usual. The point being they hadn't addressed anything I said and basicly just spouted they wanted it because they like it...not saying why they liked it. So where as I'm trying to point out why I voted what I did so others can think about it and make an informed decision...they were spouting out nonsense.
edit 2: Since you seem to be so keen on this opinion thing I'll give you mine...and show you what one sounds like. IMO people should stop complaining about griefers and start learning how to "grief". IMO the term grief shouldn't even be as widely used as it is, because it's something they should learn. No facts, cut and dry. THAT's an opinion. That helps out the discussion *loads* doesn't it? Weeee. Let's just leave out the little facts about it purposefuly being part of the game (oh so hard to make ghosts walk through boxes) or the fact the game has been this way for 7 years or the fact that it would take 5 seconds to learn about it once it's happened, or how to get out of it once it has or the fact that *if* they want to avoid it again they need to learn about it or the fact that it's a great battle tactic if the person most likely has friends on the way...let's just avoid all these little facts.
--Gremio