Teh Money Shot said:a puppet- 2nd on the shard statistically... If he isnt a clone too, I think he would beat him too.. Never seen him lose..
Larson said:how did ironfist duel anyway? was he like most hybrids and just precast explode - hit a few then targ explode, poison, ebolt ebolt etc?
or was he diffrent
Exactly, but most people don't know that. The thing I like about Max and Tempest is, besides being good friends with both of them: 1. They don't get all mad if they lose and are always good sports 2. If your friends with them and orange and your guild sees them and kills them, their not going to call you a newbie because you ganked them, and yall will still be friends (just as long as your not lame) 3. They dont take the game to seriously and realize life is way more important.Cebrious Arcane said:Max, because duels weren't always in the pits...
Earth_Crisis said:Exactly, but most people don't know that. The thing I like about Max and Tempest is, besides being good friends with both of them: 1. They don't get all mad if they lose and are always good sports 2. If your friends with them and orange and your guild sees them and kills them, their not going to call you a newbie because you ganked them, and yall will still be friends (just as long as your not lame) 3. They dont take the game to seriously and realize life is way more important.
Teh Money Shot said:I think Geox should be up there even though he uses *** tactics... "MB" etc,
i agree completely with everythingDeathJesteR said:Tank Mage
1. Ironfist Max-fencer
2. Temptest-Swords
7x healer
1. Valkyr
5x
Noone, because the spell damage is based on str for some reason here. If you do not believe me exp ebolt yourself with 100 str then try it with 90 str. Added to that the spell timer here is wrong. I couldnt touch Matsu Ki with 84 str on a healer template. When I went to 100 just to try it I could beat him half the time. If you want to see the best 5 x'rs go to Defiance where Mindblast actually works. Until Mindblast works like OSI 5 x is pointless unless you are an idiot who makes a seperate character just to 5x. There are a handful of Americans who could compete with the Danes and Germans 5 x.
If you took Valkyr and gave him 5 x stats and had him fight Matsu Ki, Valkyr would smoke him. Look at his character template.
http://my.uogamers.com/viewchar.php?id=37175
84 str and 100 int.
Now look at Matsu Ki's
100 str and 115 int
http://my.uogamers.com/viewchar.php?id=37965
Valkyr dueled 5 x against all these people with 84 str and so did I. Phontain called me a hacker for punching him so much in duels until he saw I had 45 dex, and then called me stupid for having 7 x stats, after he looked up my stats.
Take any character who ever played this shard and give them equal stats and working mb (when they all actually dueled alot) and the 5x ranking would look like this.
1. Valkyr
2. Matsu Ki
3. Ironfist Max
4. Trunks
5. Temptest
Of those in 5 x the only one who could compete with Europeans was Valkyr in 5 x, and he was far from being the best there. I had the highest duel score there (mostly from killing americans) and there were 4 or 5 Germans that could wipe the floor with me. They have everything timed perfect, and it is damn hard to get off a finishing spell with the way they duel. You could blame it on ping but it doesnt matter as much as people think except on bull**** super fast cast shards where you can double fs over gheal with delaying ona three count. On American Freeshards people try to heal over combos instead of just disrupting them over and over again. Europeans are better at 5 x by far. Americans duel by letting people combo them, healing, then comboing in return. Whoever gets the best combo first wins.
As far as field fighters.
1. Ironfist Max
2. Valkyr
3. Temptest
4. Eraxor
And for those that didnt see Ironfist duel, he used 5 x combos alot and hardly ever made a mistake. Valkyr was a defensive dueler that made no mistakes. He would always let you combo first. He was the best I have seen at managing mana, and making you waste yours. He would just outlast people that were good comboers like me, cus I would **** up eventually because I am an impatient man. If anyone lasted over 2 minutes with me they had a good chance of me ****ing up somewhere. Matsu Ki was just a damn good comboer but he had nothing on Iron or Valkyr defensively.
Best Comboers I have seen
1. Matsu Ki
2. Folken
3. Trunks
4. Ejin
The only two players that gave me problems every damn time I dueled them were Ironfist and Valkyr. Those two just never make frickin mistakes. If you dont respect what I say, I do not care. I challenge any of you to show a picture of me dead in the field in a one on one. Yeah I was good but at least I admit who was better. The rest of you died in one combo to the people I listed yet act like you are duelers, yet you never played any other duel shards, and sucked hardcore on OSI.
I did recently duel on UOgamers also and went 10 and 0, with noone accepting duels after they lost so they could protect their ranking. Duel rankings suck....
I almost put Valkyr up there instead of Stfu, only reason I didn't is because Stfu was doing really good when he got to #1. I dueled with Valkyr alot and Rage also. I always thought they were the same person but I beleive they told me they were notJoshua said:id say Valkyr was the best........and vivi godless still duels
Earth_Crisis said:Qop was only good on fast cast shards. Whiz Kid (who wasnt really qop) and 1 more that was qop but I forget his name was the only ones that came to UO Gamers and did decent. A random came here along with robin hood and all them guys. A random was ok to I forgot but he wasnt near as good as most good duelers on here.
The reason I didnt put teh ejin on there is because I never dueled him or seen him duel. Please don't forget that I took an 8 month break. Also I was banned for like 3 months about 2 months after the server came back up.
Yeah Syko is very good and also a I talk to him in game every once in a while. Have alot of respect for him, and thought about adding him. Also I thought about adding abandon suicide but for what reason I can't remember. Our duels always lasted forever.
Anyway to the guys that were commenting on never hearing about these guys on this list before....You havnt played here that long, or either you bank sat during their time. How could you consider yourself a good pvp and never heard of Ironfist Max?? If you pvped or dueled you heard of him, unless you didnt play the shard. But to sit and say never heard of him......prolly trash to like 4 different people on that list, your just plain retarded.
All of these guys on the list were good, probably could have picked better but I can't remember everyone in a matter of 10 mins from the past 2 years almost. Sorry lol . I didnt pick anyone that hasnt played here that long because Im sure their have been alot to come and go quickly. Thats why my buddy Wrath (a player hunter) is not on there.
Please do not fill up the thread with flames, this was not meant to cause a huge fight. Just to see what players were actually thought of as good and how many of you actually know how to select duelers by things other than just their ladder.
MATSU KI has 200+ wins and like 11 or whatever loses I think someone said. Yeah he was veryy good but when the MB effect and MA effect came into play, they stopped dueling. Also its easy to pick and choose your duels vs dueling anyone who asks.
no he was not. IM TALKING ABOUT OSI qop, not fake uogamers/uogateway wannabes.Havok said:i.fish.and.sail was good in my opinion and was a qop member..
maybe uogateway qop, osi qop youve never even seen, i can tell because you make threads trying to find a way to get your precious bonded pets from griefers ahhahah. you played reg shards with your tamer and sat in town, gj man gjA stoned T-Rex said:Pfft qop was a joke, they played 24/7 and thought they were gods gift to UO but they were really a bunch of TC trash
diamonds is a random, he was a beast on osi, one of THE BEST DUELERS. i dont count any dueling outside of osi pre aos like uogamers to be competetive pvp, theres just such a low ceiling set for how much skill is needed to be good, i think uogamers is a toss upfirst.class.mail said:yeah nobody mentioned diamonds.. wtf
he was damn good but southern beat him most of the time ;p