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Wands

Wands?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 43.9%

  • No

    Votes: 23 56.1%
  • Total voters
    41
  • Poll closed .
Heavy Smoker

Heavy Smoker

Knight
They've already been nerfed compared to how they were made for the game... Wands use to be instant, now they have a cast timer.. The only issue is lightning wand macros
 
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Boomshakalaka

Squire
Heavy Smoker said:
Your dumb as fuck honestly with 3 people chucking pots on you on the run there's no way in hell to escape or survive without a gh wand if said players are any good. Please think outside of your little room you live in
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what makes you sure you have to win/survive a 3v1 gank? Shouldn't that mean certain death?

Besides, there are plenty of things you can use on the field to get away from a gank without wands, from both sides.
 
Vizeroth

Vizeroth

Sorceror
Boomshakalaka said:
what makes you sure you have to win/survive a 3v1 gank? Shouldn't that mean certain death?

Besides, there are plenty of things you can use on the field to get away from a gank without wands, from both sides.
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Great straw man, pleb. He didn't suggest that escape from a 1v3 should be assured; the argument is that gheal wands are important because they give soloists a greater chance to survive ganks (which, let's be honest, are a constant occurrence in UO). There's already enough incentive to roll around in a gank squad without empowering them further.
 
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Boomshakalaka

Squire
Vizeroth said:
Great straw man, pleb. He didn't suggest that escape from a 1v3 should be assured; the argument is that gheal wands are important because they give soloists a greater chance to survive ganks (which, let's be honest, are a constant occurrence in UO). There's already enough incentive to roll around in a gank squad without empowering them further.
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Straw man? Dude all but said that there's no way to live a 3v1 without using wands, and I'm just pointing out that you shouldn't be able to live a 1v3 gank consistently.

All in all, a 1v3 gank with both sides using wands vs a 1v3 gank with no wands whatsoever, the no wands version is a lot easier to live if you have the skill and knowledge.

But that wouldn't really benefit your 40 mana template that requires wands that cost no mana to heal, would it?

just get rid of wands, it really isn't that big a deal scrub.
 
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Boomshakalaka

Squire
Being outnumbered will always be a problem in any pvp game. However, keeping wands around just destroys small scale group or solo pvp.

The funnest time on this shard was when solo red pks were viable, not because of templates but because crutching on wands was very minimalistic.
 
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White Lotus

Sorceror
By this philosophy you are saying that if staff added meteor swarm wands and tame able ancient wyrms, it would be ok as long as everyone gets one.
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-All I am saying is something available for everyone technically isn't cheap. That doesn't mean I don't think it is dumb/broken/or could be improved.

Why? Because there is no variation.
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-Without wands it will become para spamming, or only explode eb synls/fs nox. But to be honest in all the crews I run with we already use all of these synks just as much as we use wands. Taking out wands would be like taking out bolas. It would IN FACT reduce the variation of ways to PvP. Literally that is not arguable because you are literally taking something away from the game.

All that being said.

I know for a fact both wands and bolas can be improved.


 
kkkaratekid21

kkkaratekid21

Wanderer
White Lotus said:
-Without wands it will become para spamming, or only explode eb synls/fs nox.
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What does para spam have to do with wands? Pouches much?

Why is eb and Fs nox syncs a bad thing in group pvp???

White Lotus said:
But to be honest in all the crews I run with we already use all of these synks just as much as we use wands.
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Ok then what's your argument here?

White Lotus said:
Taking out wands would be like taking out bolas. It would IN FACT reduce the variation of ways to PvP. Literally that is not arguable.
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This is why my original argument stated you were short sighted.

consider this. If everyone had 150 hp dmg FS wands with unlimited charges do you think that would create a dynamic pvp scene? Or do you think everyone would just use fs wands?

less is more my friend.

You guys blindly support wands. I don't know if it's because you just like to forum argue.. Or if its to spite the people you are arguing with.

Nearly every veteran pvper that has pvped on any server other than wand crazy hybrid will agree that wands breed stale pvp
 
puterg33k

puterg33k

Sorceror
kkkaratekid21 said:
Maybe for you. But let's be real. If a single person is fighting a group of 5 people.. He should die.

You're arguing that the way UO has been played for years on every other server is flawed?
Nobody else uses wands like hybrid does. Not even the actual era of UO that hybrid is immitating.
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Right! ? Get rid of this fucking garbage, guarantee pvp increases.
 
kkkaratekid21

kkkaratekid21

Wanderer
puterg33k said:
Right! ? Get rid of this fucking garbage, guarantee pvp increases.
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Exactly.

removing wands increases the availability for those who don't know how to use wands to pvp.

New players have such a hard time getting started here because hybrid requires so much to Pvp.
 
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