UO:Demise - The Great Identity Crisis

[Aeolus]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

no human can mini heal through two mages spamming harm on him. no one. (shadow/kagatuti).

Why not? If I remember correctly, 1st circle spells can't be interupted- ever.

 

[Tempest]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

Why not? If I remember correctly, 1st circle spells can't be interupted- ever.

Then your memory cells are lacking.

 

[Aeolus]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

Then your memory cells are lacking.

I'm almost certain that this was the case at some point in UO history, but maybe that has changed.

 

[jmaster]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

you can fizzle anything, but 1 harm overpowers 1 miniheal, so a typical mage spamming healing while i harm+ bleed, would die. but these guys live with two men harming + bleed.

 

[Insomniac-]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

I dont even know those rw/tw guys, but...
lol mini heal hacking is obviously the greatest hack in UO

harm is? 10ish dmg?
120 eval mini heals are? +20?

so yea, LOL@U



and if staff pvpd, u'd think they would actually fix the bugs that plague pvp...

 

[DarkSaionji]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

Or perhaps they would work on one project at a time and do what is best for the shard in their expert opinions.


---FK

 

[Tempest]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

I dont even know those rw/tw guys, but...
lol mini heal hacking is obviously the greatest hack in UO

harm is? 10ish dmg?
120 eval mini heals are? +20?

so yea, LOL@U



and if staff pvpd, u'd think they would actually fix the bugs that plague pvp...

Harm hits 13-15 with 120 Eval, 100 Scribe, 15 sdi, 130-150 Int. Assuming your opponent has 60 cold.

Mini heal on yourself heals for 11(rare occasions) - 15(rare occasions) with 120 Magery. It only passes the 15 dmg threshold when you`re mini healing another player, which can reach 20 dmg, give or take a few hp.

 

[jmaster]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

I dont even know those rw/tw guys, but...
lol mini heal hacking is obviously the greatest hack in UO

harm is? 10ish dmg?
120 eval mini heals are? +20?

so yea, LOL@U



and if staff pvpd, u'd think they would actually fix the bugs that plague pvp...

you obviously don't pvp that much, or play a dexxer or something, to think that you can heal 20 dmg with 1 miniheal. that's just fricken absurd. i'm 115 mage and i usually heal 10-11 a pop.
* edit*- tempest beat me too it.

 

[Aeolus]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

Harm hits 13-15 with 120 Eval, 100 Scribe, 15 sdi, 130-150 Int. Assuming your opponent has 60 cold.

Mini heal on yourself heals for 11(rare occasions) - 15(rare occasions) with 120 Magery. It only passes the 15 dmg threshold when you`re mini healing another player, which can reach 20 dmg, give or take a few hp.

But harm is affected by distance too- at 3 tiles away it only does 25% damage so distance plays a huge factor there.

 

[Tempest]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

But harm is affected by distance too- at 3 tiles away it only does 25% damage so distance plays a huge factor there.

Yes, nobody harms 3 tiles away.

Anyone that`s PvP`d before knows to harm when you`re right next to your opponent.

Of course we assume that everyone knows the mechanics of the spells they cast to utilize them to their fullest.

 

[Aeolus]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

Yes, nobody harms 3 tiles away.

Anyone that`s PvP`d before knows to harm when you`re right next to your opponent.

Of course we assume that everyone knows the mechanics of the spells they cast to utilize them to their fullest.

I found this on Stratics- not sure if it's outdated or not or if it even applies on Demise but...

And don't overlook the value of the 1st-circle Healing spell. It cannot be interrupted, uses very little mana, and can sometimes mean the difference between life and death.

I was thinking it was all first circle spells, but maybe it was just Heal. Here is a link to the article.

 

[scrim]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

a hitman = cns something

FOR SURE

 

[Serenity]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

Yes, every server wars.
And my pet bunny "pwnzers all u nubs" (did i say that correctly? not too clued up on pvpspeak :/)

 

[a-e-i-Own-you]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

Some very interesting responses here...

I was under the impression that Staff WERE allowed to play regular characters; which I find to hardly be a conflict of interest.

What better way to understand the player base then to become a part of it?

Solid Snake style.

 

[a-e-i-Own-you]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

I found this on Stratics- not sure if it's outdated or not or if it even applies on Demise but...
I was thinking it was all first circle spells, but maybe it was just Heal. Here is a link to the article.

If Mini-heals were uninterruptable no one would die.

 

[cuattamu]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

Yeah, it does sound fun, but I'd rather be accused of HAXES for legitimate reasons.

TBH Ferris, Spawn yourself a suit (Nothing crazy but something playable.) and try the pvp. If not, I will put together a suit for you. The reason why I say this is, you'll get a much better feel of what the pvp is like. You'll see why people are complaining. Maybe it'll prompt some need changes to the pvp atmosphere.

 

[p01n7e]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

LOL @ everyone pretending to know jack shit about playing a mage .. you just lost all credibility on any past and/or future arguments you might make.
(that means Hyphy too, although he's pretty much right)

 

[Aeolus]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

If Mini-heals were uninterruptable no one would die.

Ok, this is from Spell.cs

        public void Disturb( DisturbType type, bool firstCircle, bool resistable )
        {
            if ( !CheckDisturb( type, firstCircle, resistable ) )
                return;

            if ( m_State == SpellState.Casting )
            {
                if( !firstCircle && !Core.AOS && this is MagerySpell &&  ((MagerySpell)this).Circle == SpellCircle.First )
                    return;

                m_State = SpellState.None;
                m_Caster.Spell = null;

                OnDisturb( type, true );

                if ( m_CastTimer != null )
                    m_CastTimer.Stop();

                if ( m_AnimTimer != null )
                    m_AnimTimer.Stop();

                if ( Core.AOS && m_Caster.Player && type == DisturbType.Hurt )
                    DoHurtFizzle();

                m_Caster.NextSpellTime = DateTime.Now + GetDisturbRecovery();
            }

That looks to me like first circle mage spells can't be disturbed- or maybe it means they can be disturbed if AOS is enabled (which Demise obviously is.) Maybe Drakull or someone with more expertise in this area could give a definitive answer. That would make what I said true- that at some point in UO's history, 1st circle spells couldn't be disturbed. I'm pretty sure I'm not nuts... pretty sure...

 

[a-e-i-Own-you]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

LOL @ everyone pretending to know jack shit about playing a mage .. you just lost all credibility on any past and/or future arguments you might make.
(that means Hyphy too, although he's pretty much right)

'Cause you were ever any good.


Wait, no you weren't...

 

[p01n7e]

Re: Do the UOemise Staff PvP?

I was. I like to think i still am (i still play occasionally). That doesn't change the fact that you proved yourself a mindless face-across-the-kbd rolling zombie, since you CAN'T play a mage and not know what the MOST USED spells are affected by.

Please, i've said this before and i'll say it again - if you're american and you play a mage, like to think that you're the best (always the case), sit the fuck down, you're not, 9999/10000 times. As this might seem like a racial remark, i like to point out that i haven't seen a single non-american player as cocky as they are, plus - others could actually back their statements up to an extent.. I know puberty doesn't go away untill you're, like, 25 and it's hard but try & keep your egocentric thoughts to yourselves. Thanks.

*edit* - Canadians too o.0 <3 Eby, that doesn't apply to you.