Update on hardware upgrade, and system move.

[drakrum-hybrid]

Its all good but I bet the server will benefit everyone and I know its a great move.

 

[R0B0T]

ok i suppose i was wrong to say you know zero, you heppen to know how to ping, however you dont know wether or not level3 even uses there own network to host there website, more than likely they do, but you still dont know for sure, but if you want a more accurate ping you should run it like this ping 67.15.136.121 -l 1472, then if you want to make it longer to check the status over more time you could do ping 67.15.136.121 -l1472 -t, and you can do that for the level three address aswell, now lets talk tracert cause that can tell us more about the path we follow to a router, now here from work this is my tracert, this is on a dual T1 provider (unknown)

Tracing route to login.uogamers.net [67.15.136.121]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms hou6509apc1-2.dc.cmg.convergys.com [170.14.227.2
]
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 167.1.106.2
3 11 ms 9 ms 9 ms 12.119.175.153
4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms gbr1-p54.auttx.ip.att.net [12.123.133.46]
5 15 ms 15 ms 16 ms tbr2-p013901.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.2.109]
6 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms ggr2-p390.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.17.85]
7 12 ms 12 ms 14 ms p16-0-1-3.r21.dllstx09.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
9.37]
8 20 ms 20 ms 19 ms p16-6-0-0.r02.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
5.101]
9 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ge-6.ev1.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.10.19
0]
10 23 ms 21 ms 23 ms 66.98.241.29
11 23 ms 21 ms 23 ms 66.98.241.116
12 22 ms 22 ms 23 ms ev1s-67-15-136-121.ev1servers.net [67.15.136.121
]


no as far as i can tell there are five hops everyone goes through. hop 7 and down, now personnaly ive ran traceroutes where hop 8 and 9 gave me numbers like 200 and up before, im not sure why. but that could constitue for some lag if ever 100 packets is droped or slowed down by the router and resends occur, escially since its a game.

now the only way to really and truly be accurate is to have the ip information for the datacenter where they are gonna put this bad boy, and ping that, cause it will most likely have the same results as when the server goes live, and its very possible thats its not the same server that level3.com is hosted in, also you cant account for what load and stuff level3.com could be experienceing to give you the 10 to 14 ms increase you expereince compared to where its served now, also your not send several kilobytes a second to the server your just pinging it, which only really gives you some indication of whats going on. the real test is sending several packets at what ever speed the game sends them using the MTU the server will accept, which is 1472 at the moment, not i could be wrong on some of this stuff since i have not worked in a datacenter and im sure ryan and there team have more expereince with it than me, so who knows, but your ping test says almost nothing about what to expect. i should go walk over to EV1 and kick over the server, EV1 is in the greenspoint area in houston, im in the greens point area, but i have to go to dallas and back to reach the server. anyway im done with this comment,

 

[LeGiOn-hybrid]

this is an ip for a level 3 hop in Chicago.. It should give you a good idea of what your ping will be like.

64.159.0.237

 

[R0B0T]

see legions got it

 

[LeGiOn-hybrid]

Actually I'm kinda pissed off about my traceroute to chicago. I live in Cleveland and cox cable routes me to NY first to peer with level3 and then to Chicago. An eventual phone call might be able to fix that though.

 

[R0B0T]

with comcast? they wont do anything i belive.

 

[R0B0T]

when i get home ill trace route it from here and see where i end up, ill post it to

 

[drakrum-hybrid]

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ping 64.159.0.237

Pinging 64.159.0.237 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Reply from 64.159.0.237: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=243
Reply from 64.159.0.237: bytes=32 time=82ms TTL=243
Reply from 64.159.0.237: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=243

Ping statistics for 64.159.0.237:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 82ms, Maximum = 89ms, Average = 84ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ping 64.159.0.237

Pinging 64.159.0.237 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 64.159.0.237: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=243
Reply from 64.159.0.237: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=243
Reply from 64.159.0.237: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=243
Reply from 64.159.0.237: bytes=32 time=85ms TTL=243

Ping statistics for 64.159.0.237:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 83ms, Maximum = 120ms, Average = 94ms

I hope this isnt a representation of my ping to come 80+ is high.

 

[drakrum-hybrid]

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>tracert 64.159.0.237

Tracing route to as-1-0.bbr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [64.159.0.237]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms 192.168.1.1
2 26 ms 23 ms 22 ms 206-65.ashford.graceba.net [216.47.206.65]
3 22 ms 25 ms 21 ms edge.graceba.net [216.47.204.2]
4 38 ms * 38 ms 64.200.57.97
5 48 ms 51 ms 45 ms hstntx1wcx3-pos9-3-oc48.wcg.net [64.200.210.241]

6 51 ms * 50 ms dllstx1wcx3-pos14-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.210.65
]
7 * 50 ms * dllstx9lcx1-pos14-0-oc48.wcg.net [64.200.105.78]

8 51 ms 51 ms 49 ms so-2-2-0.edge1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.127.21]

9 * 51 ms * so-1-2-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [209.244.15.161
]
10 87 ms 89 ms 89 ms as-1-0.bbr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [64.159.0.237]

Trace complete.

I got alot of timeouts. I cant really even play UOG as it is right now cause im getting hop errors and timeouts but even so i still ping uog as it is at 50 average so my ping really isnt effected, so I'm assuming this 80+ ping is going to stick with this move or do you think it will be put on a better bandwidth server ect?

 

[ASayre]

Honestly, how much do you make, average, monthly off donations?

Not enough

 

[lordsatan-hybrid]

Hey Ryan & Staff -

Great work, I really appreciate what you guys do - your service to the gaming community in it of itself is quite a contribution. Too bad about the Opterons lol, For servers sometimes you just cant go wrong with a poweredge, nice rig (and nice deal on it too) keep it up =/

@ R0B0T -
pathping 4tw =/

 

[ownageanonymous]

cool, I'm in chicago.

 

[Sloth-hybrid]

I'm From Chicago!

 

[Compton]

don't be so happy you live in chicago yet, you might get routed to New York as well.
lol.

 

[CrazyCracka420]

I'm happy, im from Minneapolis, and we get routed directly to Chi before most mpls WAN's and MAN's.

 

[Alpha Red_]

Not enough

Ha Ha Bull****.. between sponsors and people donating you guys make way more then enough..

 

[jerger]

when is the server move happening? if it has happened already, my lag in milwaukee (which the chicago lag was horrible).. if its happeend, its still horrible! lol if they fix the lag, this will be where i start donating. if its not, then i probably will continue to just ***** and cry over the server and not donate haha

 

[Ryan]

Ha Ha Bull****.. between sponsors and people donating you guys make way more then enough..

no, we dont.

if we did we would have moved a long ****ing time ago.

kthx for trying.

 

[Despairl]

Ha Ha Bull****.. between sponsors and people donating you guys make way more then enough..

I don't work for UOgamers....but i run something similar.....u have no clue the costs of things.....

 

[drakrum-hybrid]

Ryan or some other staff meember that might know. When will the server change happen? I was just wondering if there was an ETA is all.

Thanks.