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Climategate
- Thread starter Pont
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XanaxChimp
Wanderer
Re: Climategate
Caring to much.
Phelon;672628 said:
Caring to much.
Phelon
Knight
Re: Climategate
I'm sure that you meant to use "too much". It's english after all. That IS your primary language I assume after telling everyone it's a "yank" server. You are what I call an "ugly american" and will be treated as such.
Please do not judge all Americans by this crowning jewel.
XanaxChimp;672644 said:
I'm sure that you meant to use "too much". It's english after all. That IS your primary language I assume after telling everyone it's a "yank" server. You are what I call an "ugly american" and will be treated as such.
Please do not judge all Americans by this crowning jewel.
XanaxChimp
Wanderer
Re: Climategate
How about the downstairs basement?
Howl;672721 said:
How about the downstairs basement?
e_X_i_l_i_u_s
Sorceror
Re: Climategate
There's some good videos from scientists... before an audience of fellow scientists (all fields?), billionaires, companies (microsoft, intel, etc.)... about global warming at this annual and sometimes bi-annual gathering.
http://www.TED.com/ (just do a search of "climate change" , "global warming")
p.s. the last part of this talk (our place in the cosmos) makes a good point about Global Warming and the the perspective one may take despite the dangerous state we live in... (10 ways the world could end)
UPDATE: fixed links
There's some good videos from scientists... before an audience of fellow scientists (all fields?), billionaires, companies (microsoft, intel, etc.)... about global warming at this annual and sometimes bi-annual gathering.
http://www.TED.com/ (just do a search of "climate change" , "global warming")
p.s. the last part of this talk (our place in the cosmos) makes a good point about Global Warming and the the perspective one may take despite the dangerous state we live in... (10 ways the world could end)
UPDATE: fixed links
XanaxChimp
Wanderer
Re: Climategate
Judge all americans, when someone is putting down my race im sure 90% of the american's will back me up on this.
Phelon;672694 said:
Judge all americans, when someone is putting down my race im sure 90% of the american's will back me up on this.
Ageless Venomous
Knight
Re: Climategate
Actually "human" isnt a race. Meso-americans, Pigmies and etc. are races.
These days people just divide races between White, Yellow, Brown and Black.
Lucifall;672917 said:
Actually "human" isnt a race. Meso-americans, Pigmies and etc. are races.
These days people just divide races between White, Yellow, Brown and Black.
Pont
Knight
Re: Climategate
Global governance, yay
:
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35472/Alex_Jones___The_World_Government_is_Established/
Global governance, yay
:http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35472/Alex_Jones___The_World_Government_is_Established/
Oaks
Knight
Re: Climategate
Still waiting.
And the whole reasoning of "it is our duty as humans" doesn't hold up either, that is bringing religion into the argument and playing on the conscience. Species come and go, it is a natural cycle. Asking the human population to bring about change is not feasible on any possible level.
Still waiting.
And the whole reasoning of "it is our duty as humans" doesn't hold up either, that is bringing religion into the argument and playing on the conscience. Species come and go, it is a natural cycle. Asking the human population to bring about change is not feasible on any possible level.
Pont
Knight
Nottheking
Lord
Re: Climategate
Yeah, for me, the whole impetus for environmentalism would have to come from actual benefit to humanity... I don't quite get "save the environment because it's there." However, very obviously there are some cases where pollution is very definitely an indirect way of somebody profiting off of harming someone else. Things that come to mind in this respect are, for instance, acid rain allowing a utility company to make big profits on electricity, at the expense of causing property damage to those within a few miles. (or for a more defined instance, the cause of the famous Hinkley v. Pacific Gas & Electric case)
That's one of my main concerns with the focus on CO2... It draws attention, as well as funding, away from numerous pollutants that have FAR better-understood, and far more directly harmful effects.
Plus, while CO2 *IS* a greenhouse gas, so is water. And both are the most basic results of the extraction of energy from carbon-based fuel. (be it burning coal, oil, gas, or organisms using cellular respiration to get energy from food) At the most basic example, 1 part methane (CH4) plus two parts oxygen (O2) equals two parts water (H20) and one part carbon dioxide. (CO2) There is no way for the process of consuming these fuels that does NOT immediately produce both water and carbon dioxide; no matter the compound, the hydrogen will bond with oxygen to become water, and the carbon will bond with oxygen to form carbon dioxide.
Yeah, for me, the whole impetus for environmentalism would have to come from actual benefit to humanity... I don't quite get "save the environment because it's there." However, very obviously there are some cases where pollution is very definitely an indirect way of somebody profiting off of harming someone else. Things that come to mind in this respect are, for instance, acid rain allowing a utility company to make big profits on electricity, at the expense of causing property damage to those within a few miles. (or for a more defined instance, the cause of the famous Hinkley v. Pacific Gas & Electric case)
That's one of my main concerns with the focus on CO2... It draws attention, as well as funding, away from numerous pollutants that have FAR better-understood, and far more directly harmful effects.
Plus, while CO2 *IS* a greenhouse gas, so is water. And both are the most basic results of the extraction of energy from carbon-based fuel. (be it burning coal, oil, gas, or organisms using cellular respiration to get energy from food) At the most basic example, 1 part methane (CH4) plus two parts oxygen (O2) equals two parts water (H20) and one part carbon dioxide. (CO2) There is no way for the process of consuming these fuels that does NOT immediately produce both water and carbon dioxide; no matter the compound, the hydrogen will bond with oxygen to become water, and the carbon will bond with oxygen to form carbon dioxide.
Ageless Venomous
Knight
Re: Climategate
Hey everyone who's worried about CO2 emissions!!!!
Newsflash for you!!!!!!!!
Stop breathing.
Hey everyone who's worried about CO2 emissions!!!!
Newsflash for you!!!!!!!!
Stop breathing.
Oaks
Knight
Re: Climategate
http://www.cfact.tv/2009/12/07/lord...-at-the-2nd-international-climate-conference/
This one posted yet? Same guy from Pont's post.
http://www.cfact.tv/2009/12/07/lord...-at-the-2nd-international-climate-conference/
This one posted yet? Same guy from Pont's post.
Re: Climategate
Global warming is a hoax .
It is just a way to be controlled , they get you to buy the new hybrid and all the new things that you can save the world with .
The earth will be around for billions of years after humans are erased.
We need to get rid of all the people making profit off of this .
I hear Al Gore will make 13 billion dollars .
Stop thinking you are so self important that you can save the world alone , or as a society .
Global warming is a hoax .
It is just a way to be controlled , they get you to buy the new hybrid and all the new things that you can save the world with .
The earth will be around for billions of years after humans are erased.
We need to get rid of all the people making profit off of this .
I hear Al Gore will make 13 billion dollars .
Stop thinking you are so self important that you can save the world alone , or as a society .