Re: Congrats America, we made History.
Digatalas;474893 said:
There is sometimes a reason, or in my case anyways why i think our country is gonna crash... he just isn't cut out for the job, i mean, he got the racial vote. honestly, like 80% of his voters were black right? McCain had the experience and his lack of understanding in the economy doesn't matter. he has no control in the economy people. But, at least Biden is there after(IF) Obama is assassinated.
Um, 80% were black? only 13% of the voters in this year's election were black, and 95% of them voted for Obama, with 4% voting for McCain. (
link)The others were white. So yeah, perhaps the "black vote" helped him with the edge, but then again, Bill Clinton also needed it. And of course, remember that African-Americans are, as the second half of their name implies, AMERICANS as well. It's like saying "Bush only won because of white people." Or even "Bush only won because of older people." (as the solid majority of those under the age of 30 vote for Democrats for President) Seriously, you just irreversibly painted yourself as a "speak before you research racist." Sorry I'm being blunt there, but that's how just about everyone else here sees it.
Again, to mention for everyone who didn't hear the first time, Obama got the black vote not because he's black himself, but
because he's a Democrat. African-Americans haven't gone for the "party of Lincoln" ever since the Democrats ceased being "The Confederate Party" and became "the party of JFK" in 1960. Case-in-point: 88% of African-Americans voted for Kerry in 2004, (
link) and 90% of them voted for Gore in 2000. (
link) Coincidentally, Obama may have also gotten a higher percentage, but he also was the only of those candidates who also got more than 50% of the popular vote, and likewise, he got a higher percentage of the white vote (43%) than either Gore (42%) or Kerry. (41%)
Digatalas;474893 said:
Well i fully supported Bush, after all, few Americans have died in this war compared with the World Wars. Around 700,000 in WWII, but 5,000 now? i know that is still alot and im not belittling our troops but i think we have been successful overseas. if we didn't fight them there, we would fight them here....
One could point out that the US never suffered a foreign-born terrorist attack on its own soil while anyone but George W. Bush was in office. And 9/11 happened nearly a year into his term, so very obviously the last parts of planning and the actual initiation of the operation took place while he was in office... Quite ostensibly because Al-Qaeda knew how his administration would respond, and wanted that response.
Digatalas;474893 said:
To underlined part: He wouldn't even be president, all the black people that wouldn't have voted, well, wouldn't have voted. But since he was black i firmly believe he got the racial vote.
Remember, again, that African Americans are Americans just as much as you are. And the black vote only raised to 13% this year, instead of 11% as of previous elections. Given that according to Census 2000, approximately 13% of Americans ARE black, that means that this year they voted in proportion to the whites, rather than lagging behind. It's hardly the case that "African-Americans came out and took over."
Digatalas;474899 said:
But those states are also like 60% white too i believe. That was expected though.
Wow, is that a mind-bogglingly uneducated statement. If you'd bother to check before typing up a post, not a single US state has a majority black population. (
link) With the exception of Alabama, no other states have as many. (and Alabama only falls below Maryland, which has a high proportion due to the Washington, D.C. area, which has a higher percentage of African-Americans than any other state)
Looking further down the list, you find that there's a lot of states where Obama's margin of victory exceeded that of the percentage of black people, meaning that a majority of WHITE people voted for him:
- California - 55 (24.07% victory margin vs. 6.55% African-Americans)
- Colorado - 9 (6.78% vs. 3.70%)
- Connecticut - 7 (22.22% vs. 8.98%)
- Delaware - 3 (23.74% vs. 18.99%)
- District of Columbia - 3 (86.32% vs. 55.6%)
- Hawaii - 4 (45.14% vs. 1.73%)
- Illinois - 21 (24.72% vs. 15.01%)
- Iowa - 7 (9.29% vs. 2.04%)
- Maine - 4 (27.08% vs. 0.47%)
- Massachussets - 12 (26.04% vs. 5.31%)
- Michigan - 17 (16.60% vs. 14.10%)
- Minnesota - 10 (10.39% vs. 3.41%)
- Nevada - 5 (12.50% vs. 6.63%)
- New Hampshire - 4 (10.02% vs. 0.73%)
- New Jersey - 15 (14.69% vs. 13.40%)
- New Mexico - 5 (15.05% vs. 1.84%)
- New York - 31 (25.70% vs. 15.74%)
- Oregon - 7 (16.49% vs. 1.55%)
- Pennsylvania - 21 (10.30% vs. 9.87%)
- Rhode Island - 4 (28.62% vs. 4.32%)
- Vermont - 3 (35.31% vs. 0.49%)
- Washington - 11 (17.88% vs. 3.14%)
- Wisconsin - 10 (13.93% vs. 5.60%)
That means that if every African-American that had voted for Obama simply hadn't voted, Obama still would've had 268 votes, leaving him one vote shy of a tie, and two short of a win Or if we said they'd voted like white people did on average nation-wide, (which was still 43% for Obama, 55% for McCain) then he'd still win in any state where the African-American population is less than 55% of his margin of victory, meaning that he'd also win Maryland, putting him over 270. There was a grand total of SIX states where Obama won, with a margin smaller than the percentage of African-Americans.
- Maryland - 10 (24.13% vs. 27.72)
- Ohio - 20 (3.92% vs. 11.35%)
- Indiana - 11 (0.94% vs. 8.30%)
- Virginia - 13 (5.57% vs. 19.55%)
- North Carolina - 15 (0.33% vs. 21.54%)
- Florida - 27 (2.35% vs. 14.47%)
At any rate, please GTFO out of the Deep South for a while before trying to make a political statement covering anything but your home location. I know you wouldn't last long in a big Northern city, but you really need the experience before you can form an educated opinion about any part of America that's not the Deep South. I used to live there myself once; (New Orleans, where I was born) I'm glad I don't any more.
