UO STEAM VS RAZOR..DONT BE SCARED!!

[Jackie Moon]

I use UO steam..But if we could all be forced to move back to razor the duels the field fights everything pvp wise would be alot better..and we could possible bring even more people back...The shard is turning a new leaf right now and growing.. Lets take this chance we have and get things right. before the crowd grows then drops off again..this already has been a strong summer..and when we hit winter i believe we will have numbers that we havent had in years!

 

[kolbycrouch]

And 3/4's of the shard would actually have to learn to use mini-heal. It would really seperate the good from the bad. You got my vote!

 

[Heavy Smoker]

No, razor is outdated and the last target system hardly works and always bugs out.

 

[Heavy Smoker]

Nothing will change, people will still use EasyUO and script, just because uosteam has euo built into it doesn't mean people will not cheat with razor.

 

[kolbycrouch]

Most randoms won't use easyuo, so that's not a good excuse, yes some will, but most will not.

Plus, steam > razor+euo

 

[Heavy Smoker]

I say we keep steam and remove the spells from the macro section. Steam is so much smoother and the targets do not fuck up on the run, however there is still a slight target issue with steam.

 

[Jackie Moon]

But steam is no longer being worked on or updated right?...steam is fine imo except for the holding down spells...mainly miniheal

 

[april0395]

Are you wanting the input of the entire community? Or just of PvPers? Because losing steam will not just affect the PvP community. I PvM and I would not like to see UOSteam be banished. I was so happy to have an alternative to Razor. I was sick of my targeting messing up (why would it tell me that my target was not in range when it was right beside me?!?). My macros (crafting, training skills and organizers) run so much smoother in Steam than in razor.

 

[Heavy Smoker]

(why would it tell me that my target was not in range when it was right beside me?!?). My macros (crafting, training skills and organizers) run so much smoother in Steam than in razor.

Exactly, however the removal of spells/target from the macros menu would solve the pvp issue.

 

[Heavy Smoker]

But steam is no longer being worked on or updated right?...steam is fine imo except for the holding down spells...mainly miniheal

Well, with the looping of spells in UOSteam the mini heal is the only thing that keeps the playing field level, without it it would pretty much be impossible to heal if you stayed on screen with someone looping spells.. Unless you're good like I am and Greater Heal through peoples loops. Timing > macros.

 

[White Lotus]

terrible idea look at what happened when they took away sallos. even if they decided to bring it back alot of players left with it. everyone needs to get over this "a client makes you good" bullshit because 9 out of 10 times that isn't true.

 

[Heavy Smoker]

Someone get on steam and show me how overpowered it is, show me that you can destroy me with it and that I have no chance in hell at winning, I would LOVE to see it.

 

[sk8nomad]

why not seperate the boys from the men, and take away all assistant programs? a little extreme, but this game is becoming a 'scripting contest' and it was never originally intended for it to be like that. I wonder what richard garriott would say if he saw the abomination UO has become...

 

[Heavy Smoker]

He knows what UO has become, he was on a uo freeshard about a month ago actually.

 

[sk8nomad]

didnt stick around very long i guess hehe

 

[Digatalas]

I don't even use UOsteam yet but I need to... Razor just pisses me off when it bugs out or catches so often.

 

[kolbycrouch]

Razor can easily be fixed. Sallos is a cheat client, so that's dumb. It's way more responsive than any alternative, and has a lot of easy targeting features, that's why your only allowed to use it on hybrid and other freeshards have never allowed it. Steam's miniheal/cure self is way easier to use than manual heal hotkey and target self, and the loops are in that same category. If they turned off the miniheal self hotkey and spell casting in macro's it would fix the problem, but would hurt people who use steam for pvm. I used razor for years and have no problem other than the losing target problem. Without steam, you would have to know how to heal manually, which good players have never had a problem with, but before steam, it was obvious when bad players had no concept of timing and would constantly fizzle themselves.

 

[Tempest]

The only thing that will fix the looping bullshit is an fcr fix, where's that option?

 

[Alvin1337]

[...] But if we could all be forced to move back to razor [...]

But 'we' cant be forced.

As how would you enforce it?
There were big groups of people using steam or some other programs before they were allowed (both in Hz and in the opposition)... now it will be even worse to execute rule like that, people being already used to using steam;].

 

[Tempest]

But 'we' cant be forced.

As how would you enforce it?
There were big groups of people using steam or some other programs before they were allowed (both in Hz and in the opposition)... now it will be even worse to execute rule like that, people being already used to using steam;].

I don't condone cheaters especially in the competitive scene, but the sad fact is, there will always be someone who does, enforcing rules like banning assist programs would be difficult to police. Those who won't better themselves through better gameplay will find other ways around the banishment of assist programs. Fixing fcr will mitigate this problem a lot more than you think.