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Tamer Balance

How should taming be balanced?

  • Remove bonding

    Votes: 237 17.0%
  • Reduce pet speed

    Votes: 138 9.9%
  • Reduce pet damage

    Votes: 182 13.0%
  • Heavier bonded pet skill loss

    Votes: 145 10.4%
  • Remove recall with bonded pets

    Votes: 193 13.8%
  • Its fine how it is

    Votes: 822 58.9%

  • Total voters
    1,396
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A black man (fast & big) said:
Worst argument ever. Please let the older people talk this one out. You can watch if you want, just don't get involved and jeopardise humanity's intelligence.

-Abm :)

ROFLMAO I like it!!!
 

BOMBA67

Wanderer
I think now that pet skill loss is stupid oh come on pets loose skill as they die every time and they can't get it back up for very long time at least return pet skillgain to normal !
 

st1n63r

Wanderer
DEXTER said:
also no bodning i quit !

I could care less about bonding since the pets are too slow and stupid now. At least give the pets the skills, bonding wasn't there from the beginning, anyways
 
i dont think we should change pet skill loss, leave it how it is....but make pets move a little slower...i mean slow enough that if your on a horse u can run away and make it so pets do like 2/3rds normal dmg on humanoids and still have bonding, that way all the tamer noobs will still have bonding and pet they can farm with if theres pks they can still sick pets then all follow me recall, and pets wont chase u for like 543543 screens until u have no stam and then kill you.
 

LongBullet

Wanderer
Honestly, i have an idea. We should make it so that tamers can ONLY tame rabbits! That way, broken may survive the 1 tamer with 2 pets gank for an extra 2 mins. That was pathetic Broken.

Hey newb, I dare you to bring Mare/Drag combo vs me. Just make sure you have enough regs/pots on you to make it worth my time.
 
I dont know how tough this would be to do, but me and some people were talking. When someone first starts game with taming have a box come up saying what kind of tamer would you like to be? Then have two choices. First choice would be pvp (cant have bonded pets) Second choice would be pvm (Can't be an aggressor) Just a thought some of us had
 
Kinda like in DnD when you can be a generic wizard, or you can pick specialised schools each with their own advantage and disadvantage.

So make generic generally crap for everything (it is general purpose so it can't be good at pvm, pvp and have bonding), and then think of some specialised classes.
 

krazybone

Wanderer
No one likes fighting groups of 4 or 5 tamers.. especially when there is no risk of losing pets or reward for killing them.[/QUOTE]


In all reality Mark, I dont think anyone likes facing ONE tamer with his mares, let alone four or five sir. For one, facing a tamer alone already puts you at a seriouse dissadvantage. You not only have to face a gm mage or fighter, but you have to do this while being attacked by two mares which can do more damage then the mage ever could. In this sense Mark, it is almost rediculouse how unbalanced it is in fighting these tamers.

However, I could care less if tamers didnt have it rediculously fucking easy on this shard. You could do "one" thing to balance taming out or you could do small amounts of multiple things. For instance lets look back on the Hay day of UO. Taming used to be a skill that took months of hard work and dedication to gm. With this hard work you had great rewards. Pets could not recall with you, they couldnt bond to you, and they coudlnt be leveled up, but taming was still more usefull then almost any other thing on UO. The mere fact that you could go to a dungeon and farm with these things was reward enough.

Now however this shard has turned taming into a joke! Not only has it ruined pvp, but it has helped destroy the UO economy. Wtf is the difficulty of making money when you can tame a few ww or mares and go to a dungeon to farm your ass off without consequences.

COMON NOW taming has to have some kinda skill attached to it! Not only do they not have any drawbacks to their pets dieing, but it takes only a day to gm that skill.

Revisioins:

Of course if you took off pet bonding all together it would fix the problem, but im realistic and know thats not gona happen.

Now if you did a little of everything on that poll then you will have a winner. The lil bastards with lack of skill who play tamers will still be happy they still have bonding and the taming skill will be more at par with the rest of the UO world. First of all if you just simply slowed the animals when attacking it would emmensly help. Therefore some fuck cant bola you then sick his mares on you and you are being mowed down by e bolts and flamestrikes without any chance of escape. Second pets HAVE to have some kinda loss for dieing if you want to keep bonding. Like Mark said there is no real point to killing a tamer, its just too much risk for little reward. I mean christ some newb pk can just sit in bucs with two mares and some aids from him bank res them and take down atleast a few people newly ressed. Recalling with pets is one of my huge pet peeves as well. For fucks sake they are pets you ARENT riding wtf kinda realistic shit is that. If you want to keep that you might as well make it so I can recall two of my friends whenever i want.

Well my networking class is over so im gona stop short
 

van el fanel

Wanderer
"COMON NOW taming has to have some kinda skill attached to it! Not only do they not have any drawbacks to their pets dieing, but it takes only a day to gm that skill."

OK smart ass.. take a mare right now and go GM magery or resist in one day.
second noones complaining about recallin with pets.. shit im all for that it will be like siege. third noones complaining about pet speed.. I for one dont let my pets run off to chase someone while i chase after them. I attack n call back. to scare them away and take off. Also if you see a tamer why dont u leave? something always compells a red to attack a tamer why? they have a good chance to die but if thier good enough at pvp you end up dead and they end up with huge amounts of farming regs aids and gold( hum now if that aint some kinda reward then i and most people need to reevaluate some shit). If they die its thier fault yet they always complain fuckin tamers this and that. AND LAST NOONE IS REALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT LOSS TO SKILLS IM ALL FOR IT, MOST OF US ARE MAD ABOUT TRAINING. YOU DIE AND LOSE PROBABLY ABOUT 1 DAYS WORK IN MELEE SKILLS AND ABOUT 3 WEEKS WORTH OR RESIST AND MAGERY.
 

Juvenile

Wanderer
How about lets stick with how OSI has it? I mean if you see five tamers .. Recall. Ya should just leave taming alone.
 

krazybone

Wanderer
what a retard

van el fanel said:
"COMON NOW taming has to have some kinda skill attached to it! Not only do they not have any drawbacks to their pets dieing, but it takes only a day to gm that skill."

OK smart ass.. take a mare right now and go GM magery or resist in one day.
second noones complaining about recallin with pets.. shit im all for that it will be like siege. third noones complaining about pet speed.. I for one dont let my pets run off to chase someone while i chase after them. I attack n call back. to scare them away and take off. Also if you see a tamer why dont u leave? something always compells a red to attack a tamer why? they have a good chance to die but if thier good enough at pvp you end up dead and they end up with huge amounts of farming regs aids and gold( hum now if that aint some kinda reward then i and most people need to reevaluate some shit). If they die its thier fault yet they always complain fuckin tamers this and that. AND LAST NOONE IS REALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT LOSS TO SKILLS IM ALL FOR IT, MOST OF US ARE MAD ABOUT TRAINING. YOU DIE AND LOSE PROBABLY ABOUT 1 DAYS WORK IN MELEE SKILLS AND ABOUT 3 WEEKS WORTH OR RESIST AND MAGERY.



That was one of the most ignorant retarded post I have ever seen. Apparantly you are used ot bs revisions that osi made and never played in the real days. Somehow non of your points have any backing what so ever? Please think before you fucking post son
 

krazybone

Wanderer
EvilGenius010 said:
Broken... hoenstly... are you kidding me!?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Broken
If you could control a dragon irl, ------------ no. stfu plz k thx

casted ma's on him -------------------- wtfuck? when does a drag cast ma's on anyone?

All Kill = No Skill It's a skill that newbs use to make them think they can kill people. My irl friend just joined this shard, and he made tamer as his first char. He already killed a few reds, that i know, were decent pvpers. How? I'll tell ya. "All Kill" + Para. No. FUCK TAMING. Read my above post, it makes it pretty clear what i want


The whole point of what i said was that the idea of taming is exactly how it's used. To make it anything less would ruin the idea of the skill.
Honestly, i have an idea. We should make it so that tamers can ONLY tame rabbits! That way, broken may survive the 1 tamer with 2 pets gank for an extra 2 mins. That was pathetic Broken.

Also, you claim your "friend" killed a few "decent pvper reds" with "'All kill' + Para." Ummm ok. First of all, if you die to para, its your own fault. So, if the reds didnt have the common sense to bring pouches, then they may not be that decent at pvp. If you die to something that you couldve prevented, its your fault.

Taming involves choosing a template. Bolas require nothing. Hmm...


Pleaaaaaaaaaasseeeeee FAGGOT go back to fucking AOS UO and play as a fucking ninja or something, cause its blaitenly obviouse you started at that time or you are just a fucking moron! You can plainly fucking calculate this shit if you want! two fucking mares is exactly like have two fucking HARD CORE MAGES wiht you! except they have five hundred str dont take any regs and do exactly as you command! Look faggot im not gona go into details cause id just make you look sad but I will say this. Taming back in the good uo days such as the second age renaisance was purely fine. First of all it took forever to gm taming but once you did FUCK a tamer with a ww was almost impossible to beat. Its the same fucking way now EXCEPT Now the fucking tamers 1.can ride while the mare is attacking 2. Res their fucking pets 3. Increase their pets skill 4. there are third party programs to make all kill and macro target done as easy as fuck 5. Bolas make them even worse 6. You can fucking recall with them without RIDING THEM WHICH DOESNT EVEN MAKE FUCKING SENSE!

Listn all these fucking skills were made for whiny trammy bitches LIKE YOU who didnt want to work hard for their fucking gold. ALL they wanted to do was go tame a few fuckign ww's or mares and go farm non stop recalling WHEVER PKS try and kill.

Its a fucking shame you cant realize how unbalanced taming is on this shard, since taming is about the only aos trammy revisions that affected pvp that were kept. You might as fucking well put in magic items that make you caste faster now! OR maybe we can fucking just INSURE MAGICAL WEAPONS!

LOOK I kill tamers, but its not the fucking point. The point is its soo extreemely unbalanced that I have to take a seriouse chance of dieing from a faggot that jsut screams all kill and im dead. Even if I do happen to kill him WTF did i accomplish! He reses then even if i killed his pets reses them comes back and kills me! NOTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED AND if you havent fucking seen ONE DUDE with two mares and a few friends mow down about ten descent mages with ease, which you can plainly see at IDOC's or factions then you are an ignorant FUCK and you need to stop posting.
 

krazybone

Wanderer
Originally by WRATH CHILD [/QUOTE]now it strikes me odd that many of the people complain that pets are entirely too strong and their spells do entirely do too much damage well be that as it may it would be the same principal if you looked at the mage template.. you add a few skills you dont ever use again to boost the damage multiplyer on certain spells or add a few more rounds to magic reflection.. here is my suggestion.. quit complaining learn some stratagy.. the complaining about tamers is getting about old.. when mages are still in what i can still tell more over powered than tamers.. good evening and good day to you all[/QUOTE]


Hah you are the dumbest mother fucker I have heard yet!

What in the FUCKING hell makes you think that the characters that are tamers ARENT FUCKING MAGES AS WELL! you ignorant mother fucker! thats halfe the problem u dumbass! they have all the skills you basically have REFLECT and everything as well as a few mares with five hundred intel str and constantly attack you! God seriously there are too may faggot trammies that play this shard! You fucks dont even know wtf it was like to play an actuall game!

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY ANY SHARD THAT MAKES GAIN HARD DOESNT SUCCEED its cause of fucks like you who are too whiny and too bitchy to take time and effort into playing a game, WHICH AFTER ALL I THOUGHT GAMES WERE ALL ABOUT! Every time the gms make a change that makes an unbalanced skill balanced or make the game a lil harder you fucking cry your asses off! Thank god that the shards doing well so they can finally make the shard how it should be not some faggot aos trammy bs where everyone gets free shit!

Take your ass over to EA games UO u sad fucking child.
 
Id say make taming take up 300 skill points.

That ways, while they are still powerful chars, their skill is put on par with magery.

Taming, Lore, Vet, Magery, Med

Or Taming, Lore, Magery, Eval, Resist.

This allows for good tamers, but does not overpower them.
 

van el fanel

Wanderer
SIN said:
That was one of the most ignorant retarded post I have ever seen. Apparantly you are used ot bs revisions that osi made and never played in the real days. Somehow non of your points have any backing what so ever? Please think before you fucking post son
sin u need to stfu and stop assumin shit.. cuase this time its not makin a ass outta me just u foo.. i played osi before with a tamer... shit i played siege while u probably played baja or GL or some shit like that. Also this aint OSI if u re read everything ive been talking about all ive been asking is for a better gain rate for resist and magery. so f&$* off
 
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